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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:57 pm 
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I'd make this FTGH, but I paid $150 for it and have about $80 invested in the mobile base (fabricated at the last club mobile base build), so I figure it's gotta be worth a few sawbucks. I will entertain offers (I really need this gone), but really - $50 is too much? :roll:

This was in some kind of metal fabrication operation before I bought it from a resale shop. It was filthy with metal shavings and oil. I completely disassembled and cleaned everything in preparation for doing a complete restoration. It's been in the corner of my garage for a few years and I realize that I've lost my enthusiasm for the project, which is a shame since it is a beautiful saw when it's all cleaned up.

You can see some completed machines here, here and here. This does have the enclosed base that you see in the pics. I didn't want to drag the base out into the light, so you can see it below back in the rat-hole corner of my garage.

A few notes:

  • Someone did a really nice job of converting the upper guides to use a Delta guide setup. Unfortunately, they just took the lower guide off and apparently were using it that way. As you can see in the Vintage Machinery links above, it would be pretty simple to cobble up a set of lower guides
  • The upper wheel is crowned, which is nice as you don't have to crown your tires
  • You'll need to fabricate a belt guard (again, reference the Vintage Machinery links above), as the original is MIA
  • The motor is a Baldor 3/4hp 110v 1725 RPM
  • I could not figure out how to get the drive shaft out of the drive wheel. Tried to press it out using Dave R's hydraulic press with no luck. However, the bearings seem to be just fine, so I was going to re-assemble with the original lower drive bearings. In the process of trying to press out the shaft, the lower wheel was bent just a tad, so you'll need to do a little levering with the shaft held in a vise to true it up again, but shouldn't be a problem

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:29 pm 
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PM sent.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:10 pm 
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Sold pending pickup.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 3:31 pm 
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Ken, you are buying, not just selling ???


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 4:58 pm 
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Dial-up Dave wrote:
Ken, you are buying, not just selling ???

Sometimes the poor things just need a new home. I may have more on the way tomorrow too. It's too much fun it seems.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:26 pm 
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Just thought I'd show an update of where I am with this project. I buggered the motor so am in the weeds on that but otherwise progress continues.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:35 pm 
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Ken
what are you looking for in a motor
I might have something knocking around the garage

Scott


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:41 pm 
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Scott, I haven't given up on the one I have and also have another one on the way. the one I have is now a challenge to figure out. It is not dead but is electrically compromised somehow. it runs without the capacitor so I need to figure out why they keep blowing up, That is quite exciting but I'm ready for some calmer progress. Thanks for asking.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:31 pm 
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Looks like you nicely solved the lower guide problem, Ken!!

Lookin' good...

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:40 pm 
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Steve, the lower guide was with the saw! It has been big fun so far.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:12 am 
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Ah - Cool! There was a box of some miscellaneous nuts & bolts inside the cabinet, and I may not have recognized the lower guide for what it was, expecting guide bearings to match the original upper guides.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:50 pm 
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The saw is now operational.The fourth motor was the charm! :lol: Running wrong way, no way to reverse, too big for the cabinet, running too fast AND too big for the cabinet. A friend gave me one from his rat hole that had been under water, rusted tight shaft and truly wretched wiring. Surprisingly I got it to work, repainted and in she went!
The fun part of resuscitating a basket case is figuring out not only where everything goes but in what orientation. I spent 3 days and a lot of asking questions trying to figure out how to get the blade cover to close. Turned out there was a shop made part for the blade adjustment that was oriented by a nut on one side of the plate. I had it on the wrong side so the blade could not run in the channel of the cast aluminum cover. Good times. Thanks for making my Summer so much fun Steve. Best project in a long while. Nothing has changed cosmetically from the earlier preview pictures.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:14 pm 
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Hey, I'm glad you had fun with it - and saved it from the scrap yard!

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:46 am 
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The scrap yard would have been a sad end for a nice machine. Jacob tells me he has a ear reducer from you that might be for this saw. Do you remember that?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:30 am 
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kludwig wrote:
Jacob tells me he has a ear reducer from you that might be for this saw. Do you remember that?


Yes! I do - but I don't remember how it was mounted, though presumably it was reducing the blade speed from woodworking to metal-cutting ranges.

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